From: owner-sc-users-digest@lists.io.com (sc-users-digest) To: sc-users-digest@lists.io.com Subject: sc-users-digest V1 #127 Reply-To: sc-users Sender: owner-sc-users-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-sc-users-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk sc-users-digest Monday, June 5 2000 Volume 01 : Number 127 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 14:13:13 -0700 From: Mark Polishook <---@---.---> Subject: Re: thanks replace ControlIn.sc in 2.2.8 with the same file from 2.27 ... this might be the culprit Matthew Rogalsky wrote: > Thanks to Martin for setting up the SC users meet today in London, and > thanks James for coming to check out our stuff and provide valued input... > > It was great to see what others are working on. > > Now a question (as ever) > > Under 2.2.8, trying to run examples in Synth.help -- repeat, repeatN, > tsched -- I am getting error > A primitive was not bound. 0 413 > > Is this something broken in this release? > > thanks > mattr ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 14:57:32 -0700 From: Geoff Spradley <---@---.---> Subject: ASIO channel remapping? I just got the Macintosh EPROM and rev. 1.0 ASIO driver for an RME Hammerfall soundcard, which allows simultaneous I/O on 26 audio channels (3*8 via ADAT, 2 via SPDIF). RME's ASIO driver maps the SPDIF pair to ASIO channels 25-26 (RME does not provide a Sound Manager driver for this card). Under ASIO, it looks like it's up to the application (rather than the driver) to provide the user with a way to select from a card's channels. With Cubase, this is accomplished with a GUI-based menu option. With SuperCollider, I haven't found the equivalent menu items or likely primitives (ctl-H on "ASIO" draws a blank). Any suggestions for ways to direct SC stereo I/O to ASIO channels 25-26 (other than constructing mostly-null 26-member arrays :) )? Thanks, - --Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 17:59:10 -0700 From: Alberto de Campo <---@---.---> Subject: Re: ASIO channel remapping? Geoff Spradley wrote: > I just got the Macintosh EPROM and rev. 1.0 ASIO driver for an RME > Hammerfall soundcard, which allows simultaneous I/O on 26 audio channels > (3*8 via ADAT, 2 via SPDIF). RME's ASIO driver maps the SPDIF pair to > ASIO channels 25-26 (RME does not provide a Sound Manager driver for > this card). > > Under ASIO, it looks like it's up to the application (rather than the driver) > to provide the user with a way to select from a card's channels. With Cubase, > this is accomplished with a GUI-based menu option. With SuperCollider, > I haven't found the equivalent menu items or likely primitives (ctl-H on > "ASIO" draws a blank). > > Any suggestions for ways to direct SC stereo I/O to ASIO channels 25-26 > (other than constructing mostly-null 26-member arrays :) )? The Main::hardwareSetup method does something like that for the Korg card. hardwareSetup { super.hardwareSetup; false.trace; if (Synth.hardwareName == 'Korg', { // I want the analog ports mapped to channels 1 & 2 Synth.setOutputRouting([1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 1, 2, 1, 2]); Synth.setInputRouting([9, 10, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12]); },{ Synth.normalRouting; }); } the korg card channels are (if I remember correctly): 1 - 8 : ADAT, 9, 10 : Analog, 11,12 : SPDIF So, Synth.setOutputRouting([1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 1, 2, 1, 2]); sends the first two SC output signals to ADAT 1-2, analog 1-2, and SPDIF 1,2. Maybe Synth.setOutputRouting([1, 2, 3, etc ..., 23, 24, 1, 2]); does what you need. I am considering getting that RME card; how do you like it so far? Can you recommend it? Best, Alberto ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 15:08:43 +0100 From: Martin Robinson <---@---.---> Subject: Re: thanks Matt, Any example that sets the source of a Plug gives this error (both of these do). This is a bug in Plug In ControlIn.sc remove the source_ method and add a setter method for source (ie. var <>source ...). Or copy the file from 2.2.7. Cheers Martin > Under 2.2.8, trying to run examples in Synth.help -- repeat, repeatN, > tsched -- I am getting error > A primitive was not bound. 0 413 > >>>>>>Martin Robinson :: (Ex)tractor :: && ________ >>><<<_sonicArts.at(middlesexUniversity.london.uk); ______ <><><>__this.liveElectronics.interFaces.diffusion ____ ________________________________________________________________ >><<>>___t.+44 [0] 7970 405 903 // f.+44 [0] 7970 702 976 __ >><><>____e. _ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:08:00 -0700 From: Geoff Spradley <---@---.---> Subject: Re: ASIO channel remapping, RME Hammerfall >> Any suggestions for ways to direct SC stereo I/O to ASIO channels 25-26 >> (other than constructing mostly-null 26-member arrays :) )? > >The Main::hardwareSetup method does something like that >for the Korg card. Thanks, Alberto; changing that did the trick. >I am considering getting that RME card; >how do you like it so far? >Can you recommend it? So far so good (I haven't tried it yet with any ADAT gear, just SPDIF) now that the MacOS drivers are out (7 months late). I chose the RME Hammerfall (over, say, the MOTU 2408 or the Frontier WaveCenter|PCI) because it has drivers for the most platforms (also Windoze, Linux/ALSA; BeOS at least mentioned) and the most technical information available from the company website (). I had a good RME mail-order purchase experience with SFB Electronics in the Netherlands (). - --Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 14:55:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "AUDIOSYNTH.COM" <---@---.---> Subject: BOUNCE sc-users@lists.io.com: Non-member submission from ["Dr. David Cottle" ] (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 20:01:22 -0500 From: owner-sc-users@lists.io.com To: owner-sc-users@lists.io.com Subject: BOUNCE sc-users@lists.io.com: Non-member submission from ["Dr. David Cottle" ] >From sc-users-owner Wed May 31 20:01:20 2000 Received: from slkcpop1.slkc.uswest.net (slkcpop1.slkc.uswest.net [206.81.128.1]) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) with SMTP id UAA03023 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 20:01:19 -0500 Received: (qmail 7740 invoked by alias); 1 Jun 2000 01:00:44 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-sc-users@lists.io.com@fixme Received: (qmail 7731 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2000 01:00:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?63.224.105.108?) (63.224.105.108) by slkcpop1.slkc.uswest.net with SMTP; 1 Jun 2000 01:00:43 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 19:03:07 -0600 Subject: SC text From: "Dr. David Cottle" <---@---.---> To: SC Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi, We have been using SuperCollider for our beginning synthesis class. Several people on this forum have expressed interest in the materials, which includes a text and examples. (They assume no knowledge of smalltalk.) They are available at http://www.byu.edu/music/labs/ems/287/DSwSC.pdf and an SC file with the code only (so you don't have to type it in or copy and paste) http://www.byu.edu/music/labs/ems/287/DSwSCcode All I ask is you let me know if you find them useful and send feedback and corrections to cottle@cerlsoundgroup.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 14:14:01 -0700 From: Peter Konig <---@---.---> Subject: Re: BOUNCE sc-users@lists.io.com: Non-member submission from ["Dr.David Cottle" ] (fwd) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------CA9A2D1A5FE4CAA32C7A46C7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is SO great!! Thanks, I've been looking for info like this so I can start using the program. This is a fantastic service. - --------------CA9A2D1A5FE4CAA32C7A46C7 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="smellybug.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Peter Konig Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smellybug.vcf" begin:vcard n:;petey x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:smellybug@earthlink.net, pete@tippett.com x-mozilla-cpt:;1 fn:petey end:vcard - --------------CA9A2D1A5FE4CAA32C7A46C7-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 18:56:51 -0600 From: David Cottle <---@---.---> Subject: Re: BOUNCE sc-users@lists.io.com: Non-member submission from ["Dr.David Cottle" ] Hi, > This is SO great!! Thanks, I've been looking for info like this so I can > start using the program. This is a fantastic service. Glad it is helpful. Give me feedback. There is also a computer assisted composition text, which deals more with the code and compositional issues, and less of the synthesis angle: http://www.byu.edu/music/labs/ems/cac/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 15:53:22 +0200 (MSZ) From: martin stepanek <---@---.---> Subject: OFF TOPIC: problems with oms/midiport32/macos9.0.4 (fwd) hi, got problems with my midi-interface (its not just a sc problem, but also affects my logic audio) under os9. cant receive midi-in under os9, allthough the in-leds on the midi-interface are flickering when i hit a midi-key. everything works perfect under macos 8.6. problem seems to be the mapping of my oms ports. under os 8.6. (hardware is 233 Mhz iMac) my ports get mapped like this (and everything works great): OMS Ports: port 0 <-> SYNC MTC CLK 'MIDIport 32' port 1 <-- SYNC MTC CLK 'MIDIport 32' port 2 <-- SYNC MTC CLK 'Port 1' port 3 <-> SYNC MTC CLK 'Port 1' port 4 <-- SYNC MTC CLK 'Port 2' port 5 <-> SYNC MTC CLK 'Port 2' port 6 --> .... ... ... 'QuickTime Music' port 7 --> .... ... ... 'Studio Patches pgm chg' port 8 --- SYNC MTC CLK ' IAC Bus #1' port 9 --> SYNC MTC CLK ' IAC Bus #1' und os9.0.4 (hardware 400Mhz G3 Powerbook), the ports referring to 'Port 1' and 'Port 2' are missing: OMS Ports (and there seems to be no communication between computer and midi-interface): port 0 <-> SYNC MTC CLK 'MIDIport 32' port 1 <-- SYNC MTC CLK 'MIDIport 32' port 2 --> .... ... ... 'QuickTime Music' port 3 --> .... ... ... 'Studio Patches pgm chg' port 4 --- SYNC MTC CLK ' IAC Bus #1' port 5 --> SYNC MTC CLK ' IAC Bus #1' upgrading from oms 2.3.7 to 2.3.8 didnt solve the problem. thanks for any help martin ------------------------------ End of sc-users-digest V1 #127 ******************************