From: owner-sc-users-digest@lists.io.com (sc-users-digest) To: sc-users-digest@lists.io.com Subject: sc-users-digest V1 #325 Reply-To: sc-users Sender: owner-sc-users-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-sc-users-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk sc-users-digest Tuesday, July 17 2001 Volume 01 : Number 325 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 07:03:49 -0500 From: James McCartney <---@---.---> Subject: Re: Ringz on 7/17/01 3:28 AM, cramakrishnan@acm.org at cramakrishnan@acm.org wrote: > Am I misunderstanding what a Ringz filter does? Or is the sound > caused by aliasing or some other artifict of the algorithm? Assuming you are not running at 96 kHz: You cannot make a frequency above Nyquist which is the sampling rate / 2. In the case of oscillators the frequency will fold around the Nyquist freq. In the case of filters the math will blow up and the result is undefined. - --- james mccartney james@audiosynth.com SuperCollider - a real time synthesis programming language for the PowerMac. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:04:10 -0500 From: James McCartney <---@---.---> Subject: Re: Patches SC2: ( { var a, n, scale; n = 8; // number of simultaneous events //scale = #[0, 2.04, 3.16, 4.98, 7.02, 8.84, 10.18]; scale = #[0, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 10]; a = OverlapTexture.ar({ f = (#[24,36].choose + 0.08.rand2).midicps; LPF.ar(LFSaw.ar([f, f + 0.2], LFNoise2.kr(f*[0.05, 0.04], 0.06)), rrand(1000,3000)); }, 4, 4, n, 2) + OverlapTexture.ar({ arg spawn, i; if (i > 1 and: { 0.8.coin }, { SinOsc.ar((#[60, 72].choose + scale.choose + [0.05.rand2, 0.05.rand2]).midicps, 0, rrand(0.04,0.07)) },{ Plug.ar(0.0) }); }, 4, 6, 3, 2) + OverlapTexture.ar({ arg spawn, i; if (i > 8, { RLPF.ar( Decay2.ar(ImpulseSequencer.ar(`([1,1,1,0,0,0].scramble), Impulse.ar(3)), 0.004, rrand(0.2, 0.7), LFPulse.ar((#[48, 60, 72, 84].choose + scale.choose + [0.03.rand2, 0.03.rand2]).midicps, 0.4, rrand(0.03,0.08))), exprand(800,2000), 0.1) },{ Plug.ar(0.0) }); }, 6, 6, 6, 2); CombN.ar(a, 0.5, 0.5, 6, 1, a.reverse); }.play ) - --- james mccartney james@audiosynth.com SuperCollider - a real time synthesis programming language for the PowerMac. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:26:21 +0200 From: Fredrik Olofsson <---@---.---> Subject: pause PlayBuf hi list! i'd like to add a method to my class that can pause soundfile playback. how can i set the Pause level (p) from the pause method in the ex. below? play { arg loop=false; var soundFunc; if (loop, { soundFunc = { PlayBuf.ar(signal, sound.sampleRate, 1, 0, 0, signal.size-2, volume.dbamp)}; },{ soundFunc = { Osc1.ar(signal, (signal.size-1)/sound.sampleRate, volume.dbamp)}; }); ^Pause.ar({ soundFunc.value}, Plug.kr(p)); // problem? } pause { p = 0; // problem! } tia/fredrik ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:27:37 -0500 From: chris clepper <---@---.---> Subject: Re: No audio in - time for action - --============_-1216742436==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" have any of you tried griffin's iMic? it works great in SC and costs $35US. i got one to replace my broken jacks on my pismo and it seems like a good cheap solution. if you get the USB audio drivers it will do 24bit i/o into SC! links: iMic - http://www.griffintechnology.com/audio/imic_main.html USB audio ASIO driver - http://www.usb-audio.com/ ps - i don't work for either of these... cgc >In a message dated 7/16/2001 5:06:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >jemfiner@waitrose.com writes: > >>Are there enough audio in addicts in the world to persuade apple to >>reintroduce them in the next batch of G4 laptops . . . I'm writing to my >>friends at apple . . . maybe its worth bombarding them, petition, street >>riots . . . >> >> >>Jem >> > > >If you were to, in all seriousness, get a petition going, I would sign it and >I'm sure a bunch of others would as well. Not sure about the street riots >hehe. > >Andy - --============_-1216742436==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: No audio in - time for action
have any of you tried griffin's iMic?  it works great in SC and costs $35US.  i got one to replace my broken jacks on my pismo and it seems like a good cheap solution.  if you get the USB audio drivers it will do 24bit i/o into SC!

links:

iMic - http://www.griffintechnology.com/audio/imic_main.html

USB audio ASIO driver - http://www.usb-audio.com/

ps - i don't work for either of these...

cgc


In a message dated 7/16/2001 5:06:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jemfiner@waitrose.com writes:
Are there enough audio in addicts in the world to persuade apple to
reintroduce them in the next batch of G4 laptops . . . I'm writing to my
friends at apple . . . maybe its worth bombarding them, petition, street
riots . . .


Jem


If you were to, in all seriousness, get a petition going, I would sign it and
I'm sure a bunch of others would as well. Not sure about the street riots
hehe.

Andy

- --============_-1216742436==_ma============-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:46:16 -0500 From: James McCartney <---@---.---> Subject: Re: pause PlayBuf on 7/17/01 9:26 AM, Fredrik Olofsson at fredrikolofsson@mac.com wrote: > ^Pause.ar({ soundFunc.value}, Plug.kr(p)); // problem? > } > pause { > p = 0; // problem! > } This is the same deal I just explained, same variable name even.. Substitute "Plug" for "array" in the following text: (reusable customer support code:-) > Subject: Re: Real-time sequencer/patterns > When referencing variable p, you are not putting the variable p into the > array, you are putting the value that p has at that moment into the array. > If you change the value of p after you build this array it will have no > effect, because the array is already built. It does not 'remember' that the > value was originally got from variable p. The Plug above does not remember that the variable p was used to initialize it. How are you wanting to change this variable, via GUI, via MIDI, programmatically by some other process? play { arg loop=false; var soundFunc; if (loop, { soundFunc = { PlayBuf.ar(signal, sound.sampleRate, 1, 0, 0, signal.size-2, volume.dbamp)}; },{ soundFunc = { Osc1.ar(signal, (signal.size-1)/sound.sampleRate, volume.dbamp)}; }); p = Plug.kr(1); ^Pause.ar({ soundFunc.value}, p); } pause { p.source = 0; } resume { p.source = 1; } - --- james mccartney james@audiosynth.com SuperCollider - a real time synthesis programming language for the PowerMac. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:51:59 -0500 From: "r" <---@---.---> Subject: Re: No audio in - time for action i use the iMic w/ SC and have also had pretty good luck. r chicago usa. > [Original Message] > From: chris clepper <---@---.---> > To: > Date: 7/17/01 9:27:37 AM > Subject: Re: No audio in - time for action > > have any of you tried griffin's iMic? it works great in SC and costs > $35US. i got one to replace my broken jacks on my pismo and it seems > like a good cheap solution. if you get the USB audio drivers it will > do 24bit i/o into SC! > > links: > > iMic - http://www.griffintechnology.com/audio/imic_main.html > > USB audio ASIO driver - http://www.usb-audio.com/ > > ps - i don't work for either of these... > > cgc > > > >In a message dated 7/16/2001 5:06:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > >jemfiner@waitrose.com writes: > > > >>Are there enough audio in addicts in the world to persuade apple to > >>reintroduce them in the next batch of G4 laptops . . . I'm writing to my > >>friends at apple . . . maybe its worth bombarding them, petition, street > >>riots . . . > >> > >> > >>Jem > >> > > > > > >If you were to, in all seriousness, get a petition going, I would sign it and > >I'm sure a bunch of others would as well. Not sure about the street riots > >hehe. > > > >Andy > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 17:18:39 +0100 From: Joanna mayes <---@---.---> Subject: Re: No audio in - time for action > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - --MS_Mac_OE_3078235119_123581_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi there - sounds good, but I thought there were probs with latency? The Griffin site does mention it (although the USB-audio site implies its not a problem "depending on hardware & software blah blah"), as well as some incompatability with certain programs. Are you using the iMic for real-time audio processing? I'm still looking for cheap multi-channel audio (out) solutions - any further thoughts anyone? Could have multiple iMics I suppose....!! Cheers Jo From: chris clepper <---@---.---> Reply-To: sc-users@lists.io.com Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:27:37 -0500 To: sc-users@lists.io.com Subject: Re: No audio in - time for action have any of you tried griffin's iMic? it works great in SC and costs $35US. i got one to replace my broken jacks on my pismo and it seems like a good cheap solution. if you get the USB audio drivers it will do 24bit i/o into SC! links: iMic - http://www.griffintechnology.com/audio/imic_main.html USB audio ASIO driver - http://www.usb-audio.com/ ps - i don't work for either of these... cgc In a message dated 7/16/2001 5:06:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jemfiner@waitrose.com writes: Are there enough audio in addicts in the world to persuade apple to reintroduce them in the next batch of G4 laptops . . . I'm writing to my friends at apple . . . maybe its worth bombarding them, petition, street riots . . . Jem If you were to, in all seriousness, get a petition going, I would sign it and I'm sure a bunch of others would as well. Not sure about the street riots hehe. Andy - --MS_Mac_OE_3078235119_123581_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: No audio in - time for action Hi there - sounds good, but I thought there were probs with latency? The Gr= iffin site does mention it (although the USB-audio site implies its not a pr= oblem "depending on hardware & software blah blah"), as well a= s some incompatability with certain programs. Are you using the iMic for rea= l-time audio processing?

I'm still looking for cheap multi-channel audio (out) solutions - any furth= er thoughts anyone? Could have multiple iMics I suppose....!!

Cheers
Jo

From: chris clepper <cclepper@artic.edu><---@---.---> Reply-To: sc-users@lists.io.com
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:27:37 -0500
To: sc-users@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: No audio in - time for action


have any of you tried griffin's iMic?  it works great in S= C and costs $35US.  i got one to replace my broken jacks on my pismo an= d it seems like a good cheap solution.  if you get the USB audio driver= s it will do 24bit i/o into SC!

links:

iMic - http://www.griffintechnology.com/audio/imic_main.html

USB audio ASIO driver - http://www.usb-audio.com/

ps - i don't work for either of these...

cgc


In a message dated 7/16/2001 = 5:06:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jemfiner@waitrose.com writes:
Are there enoug= h audio in addicts in the world to persuade apple to
reintroduce them in the next batch of G4 laptops . . . I'm writing to my friends at apple . . . maybe its worth bombarding them, petition, street riots . . .


Jem


If you were to, in all seriousness, get a petition going, I would sign it a= nd
I'm sure a bunch of others would as well. Not sure about the street riots hehe.

Andy



- --MS_Mac_OE_3078235119_123581_MIME_Part-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 11:47:33 -0500 From: chris clepper <---@---.---> Subject: Re: No audio in - time for action >Hi there - sounds good, but I thought there were probs with latency? >The Griffin site does mention it (although the USB-audio site >implies its not a problem "depending on hardware & software blah >blah"), hell they claim 7ms. that's a good spec, but a spec none the less... using soundmanager w/ iMic the latency is about the same as the built in hardware. i don't have the USB driver. > as well as some incompatability with certain programs. sure. no pro tools. but digi has some low latency nice i/o to sell you as well. > Are you using the iMic for real-time audio processing? yep. >I'm still looking for cheap multi-channel audio (out) solutions - >any further thoughts anyone? do you want 'cheap' or multi-channel? >Could have multiple iMics I suppose....!! i don't think that will work. best of luck cgc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:35:19 -0400 From: christian adam hresko <---@---.---> Subject: Re: an SC3 GUI request->Pen cramakrishnan@acm.org wrote: > christian adam hresko writes: > > i have a question about this snippet of code: > > > > slider = Slider2D.new( > > Pen.new( > > action: \strokeFill, > > > > where did you get strokeFill from? > > I got it from one of James SC3 examples. > > It's 3:30 AM where you are. Shouldn't you be sleeping!? > > - sekhar > > -- > C. Ramakrishnan cramakrishnan@acm.org sleeping? what's that? i'm on the east coast. cheers, christian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:57:20 +0100 From: Andy Wilson <---@---.---> Subject: newby question - triggering from ip sig what would be the bare bones code to get an input signal to trigger a spawn event which played, let's say, a sine wave at a frequency and amplitude controlled by the ip sig ?? sorry if this is a FAQ but I can't find an appropriate example in the dox. - -- { andy wilson << managing director << LShift << www.lshift.net } { www.andyw.com && www.faust-pages.com && www.directorxml.com } ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 20:25:36 +0200 From: Fredrik Olofsson <---@---.---> Subject: Re: pause PlayBuf >on 7/17/01 9:26 AM, Fredrik Olofsson at fredrikolofsson@mac.com wrote: > >> ^Pause.ar({ soundFunc.value}, Plug.kr(p)); // problem? >> } >> pause { >> p = 0; // problem! >> } > >This is the same deal I just explained, same variable name even.. >Substitute "Plug" for "array" in the following text: (reusable customer >support code:-) sorry i missed it. problem solved now - thanks! > > Subject: Re: Real-time sequencer/patterns >> When referencing variable p, you are not putting the variable p into the >> array, you are putting the value that p has at that moment into the array. >> If you change the value of p after you build this array it will have no >> effect, because the array is already built. It does not 'remember' that the >> value was originally got from variable p. > >The Plug above does not remember that the variable p was used to initialize >it. How are you wanting to change this variable, via GUI, via MIDI, >programmatically by some other process? well, midi plus a bunch of conditions. i'm trying to port this interactive system originally written in pyrite and keep having simple things turn into unexpected problems (and vice versa). one way to learn sc i guess. this leads to another question... i need _both_ noteon and noteoff to call the 'current rules'-function with arguments deltatime, pitch and velocity. is there a way to make voicer trigger a function also when velo=0? if not, will something like this work better with midicontrollers? /fredrik - -- #| http://olofsson.da.ru |# ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:35:52 EDT From: JoJoBuBu@aol.com Subject: Re: No audio in - time for action >have any of you tried griffin's iMic? it works great >in SC and costs $35US. i got one to replace my broken >jacks on my pismo and it seems like a good cheap >solution. if you get the USB audio drivers it will do >24bit i/o into SC! Buyer Beware about the Imic. I have a 300 mhz, blue hehe, Ibook and I got one of these. I get all sorts of feedback and other nasties from this little device. I contacted the company about it and they told me it was a problem they have had with laptops. According to the company many with laptops have experienced the same problem. They also told me they are not sure if they will release a fix or not. :( So this is a good low cost solution, but if you have a laptop it might not work very well... Andy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:49:34 EDT From: JoJoBuBu@aol.com Subject: Re: No audio in - time for action >Hi there - sounds good, but I thought there were probs >with latency? The Griffin site does mention it >>?>>>>>>>(although the USB-audio site implies its not a >problem "depending on hardware & software blah blah"), >as well as some incompatability with certain programs. >Are you using the iMic for real-time audio processing? >I'm still looking for cheap multi-channel audio (out) >solutions - any further thoughts anyone? Could have >multiple iMics I suppose....!! >Cheers >Jo Hi Jo, I have an Imic. I have problems with this device and my laptop. According to the company its a problem they have had with laptops. I get SOME sound, but I get feedback, popping, and other nasties as well. I realy wanted to use this in a show I did a while back but the sound quality was too poor to warrant its use with my machine. The company said its a problem with USB on laptops not an Imic problem ... which basically means they are not working very hard to fix the problem. They told me they might not ever release a fix for it even though they know the problem is there, which is too bad. However if you are looking for a desktop solution it might be just fine. With latency , once again what the company told this time via email, is that they've seen pretty low latencies, dont remember the number off hand, and also pretty high, up to a second they say. On my system, even though the sound quality is really poor because of the aforementioned problem with laptops, I get latency of, I'm guessing, around 1/4 of a second or so which is pretty high for live performance. I have a 300 Mhz Ibook with 196 megs ram ... so that might give you something to gauge this on. Of course this changes from machine to machine. If you have a good desktop with lots of ram it might be pretty good though. Plus it is only 35 bucks which is awesome. Cheers, Andy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 00:10:37 +0100 From: "fabrice mogini" <---@---.---> Subject: Re: Dictionary I used Both David Cottle's & James's solutions to convert SC data to the Finale format (score editor). David, I found out that Finale would print every time the sign for a natural note, even if there is no sharp or flat in the same bar before. So I guess I will have to get reed of those by hand in Finale... ...but it is working fine So thanks to you both! Fabrice Mogini //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ( var dur, midinotes, durations, notes, dd; durations = [1,0.5,0.5,0.25]; // my SC durations in seconds midinotes = [72,73,96,108]; // My SC MIDInotes dur = Dictionary[16 -> 1, 8 -> 2, 4 -> 3, 2 -> 4, 1 -> 5 ,0.5 -> 6, 0.25 -> 7, 0.125 -> 8]; notes = ["CN", "C#", "DN", "Eb", "EN", "FN", "F#", "GN", "Ab", "AN", "Bb", "BN"]; dd = Array.fill(durations.size,{arg i; dur.at(durations.at(i));}); durations.size.do({arg i; ((dd.at(i).asString) ++(notes.at((midinotes.at(i)%12))) ++((midinotes.at(i) - 12)/12).floor).post;",".post; }); ) //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// - ---------- >From: "David Cottle" <---@---.---> >To: "fabrice mogini" , "SC" >Subject: Re: Dictionary >Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2001, 12:45 am > > >> Other problem: >> in SC, the midi notes [70, 71] >> cannot be written [bb4, b4] in Finale >> because Finale assumes that >> the next b in the bar is also flat >> unless I specify it is natural (or becarre): >> [bb4, b4N]. >> Do you have an idea about this? > > Would Finale suppress a natural if it is not preceded by an accidental? For > example, how would it parse this: > > [b4N, a4N, b4N, etc.] > > Would it print the suppress the naturals or print them? > > -- >><><><><><><><><><><><> > David Cottle, computer music, contra, cottle@cerlsoundgroup.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 02:19:24 +0100 From: "fabrice mogini" <---@---.---> Subject: real-time sample sequencing/cutting > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - --MS_Mac_OE_3078267564_250353_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi, I always ask lots of questions on this list and everyone seems to cope with it... So for a change I have nothing to ask. Here is a patch for live or to compose with samples (I use it to find out which pattern settings go well together for a group of samples). You need to know how many beats your samples have. You can add as many samples as you want (depending on memory). Note that the speed window can also be used to retune samples with a melodic content (values 3 and more...) Send me your comments and ideas. Thanks to those who helped me on this project! 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