From: owner-sc-users-digest@lists.io.com (sc-users-digest) To: sc-users-digest@lists.io.com Subject: sc-users-digest V1 #352 Reply-To: sc-users Sender: owner-sc-users-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-sc-users-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk sc-users-digest Thursday, September 6 2001 Volume 01 : Number 352 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 16:49:40 +0100 From: "Fabs Mogini" <---@---.---> Subject: new sample sequencer/cutter > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - --MS_Mac_OE_3082466980_135413_MIME_Part Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Alt_MS_Mac_OE_3082466980_135413_MIME_Part" - --Alt_MS_Mac_OE_3082466980_135413_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi, In response to many people who asked me on my private address to send this patch again..here you go! ..Here is a last version of the sample sequencer/cutter which is now attached and compressed (you need to unstuff it). The earliest versions I had sent did not work properly because some data got lost or altered when attaching the uncompressed file or when using copy and paste from outlook express. You need to put the file Plazy.sc in your default library (and recompile library) before using the patch. I apologize to those who aren't interested and keep on getting messages on this subject. cheers Fabrice - --Alt_MS_Mac_OE_3082466980_135413_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable new sample sequencer/cutter
Hi,
In response to many people who asked me on my private address
to send this patch again..here you go!

..Here is a last version of the sample sequencer/cutter
which is now attached and compressed (you need to unstuff it).

The earliest versions I had sent did not work properly because some
data got lost or altered when attaching the uncompressed file or when
using copy and paste from outlook express.

You need to put the file Plazy.sc in your default library (and recompile li= brary) before using the patch.

I apologize to those who aren't interested and keep on getting messages on = this subject.
cheers
    Fabrice
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My name is Adam Mokan and I have been 'composing' electronic/computer music for almost five years. I am from the Flint/Detroit area of Michigan. I am also an application developer by day, etc, etc... I had a question regarding OSC and SC. Are there any examples out there showing how to connect SC to other OSC enabled apps such as MAX/MSP and/or Reaktor? It seems like a very interesting concept. Aside from that, are there any people on the list from the Detroit area? Thanks, adam mokan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 21:37:00 +0200 From: John Eacott <---@---.---> Subject: Re: Patterns inside a Prout > I found this solution, there must be a better one...( > var tempo, key, > bassriff, harmrhythm, chordseq, > vbass; > > tempo = 120; key = 40; > > bassriff = [0, 12, 12, 0]; > harmrhythm = [1.5, 2.5, 4, 2, 2, 4].scramble; > chordseq = [0, 2, 3, 5, 7, -4, -2].scramble; > > vbass = Pbind( > \dur,0.5, > \midinote, Pseq( > Array.fill(harmrhythm.size, > { arg i; > Pser(bassriff + chordseq.at(i), (harmrhythm.at(i)*2).asInteger) > }) > ,4)+key); > > Synth.scope({ arg synth; > SetTempo.kr(synth, tempo/60); > vbass.asSpawn(nil, 2); > }, 2);)Paul Crabbe, pcrabbe@club-internet.fr Oh of course!!! Thanks Paul, j - -- John Eacott www.informal.org www.strangeattraction.com tel. +44 (0) 20 7582 3429 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 23:27:41 -0400 From: "crucial" <---@---.---> Subject: [ot] some super collisions... 9.7.01 polar bear club subtonic (gnu-yawk, gnu-yawk) julian rohrhuber (super collider swami) plays the west nile virus genome sequencer + timeblind & wolf free in every sense 10pm-3am ______________________________________ Electric Company : Greatest Hits on tigerbeat6 remixes by: kid606 timeblind geoff white leafcutter john u-ziq blectum from blechdom jasper lexaunculpt pimmon phtalocyanine tom recchion electric company kim cascone frank bretscheneider my mix ( i would be aka timeblind) is SC3 and SC2, heavy on the PV_ugens (which had just come out when i did it). _______________________________________ Timeblind : Rugged Redemption on orthlorng musork CD full length. nearly all done in SC, and even mastered in SC (stereo and transient manipulation, eq, multi band compression). there's a good review in the new Wire (bjork cover) should be out in 2 weeks or less. ________________________________________ http://crucial-systems.com ________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 02:12:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Rogalsky <---@---.---> Subject: Re: [ot] some super collisions... also in NYC this weekend -- Diapason presents: Matt Rogalsky "..." sound and video installation Saturdays, September 8, 15, 22, 29 6PM - Midnight "The piece uses a radio as input (any talk station). Using an inverse gate made with SuperCollider, only the portions below a 'silence threshold' are heard. The 'silences' (gaps between words, along with breath and background sounds) are amplified to beyond the level you'd normally expect the speaking voice to be. The total duration of the 'silences' is continuously tallied and displayed as a video projection." performance at the opening Matt Rogalsky (electronics) with Jane Henry (violin) Saturday, September 8 9PM Diapason 1026 6th Avenue, #2S New York, NY 10018 (212) 719-4393 admission is free ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:03:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Giorgio Robino <---@---.---> Subject: patch: string ensemble please improve and repost :) ( // stringEnsemble // by Giorgio Robino, 2 Settembre 2001 // primo tentativo con Just Intonation var ensemble, nVoci; var scala, ottava, probScala, probOttava, out; var f; var justCorrection; // modo maggiore scala = [0, // I 2, // II 4, // III 5, // IV 7, // V 9, // VI 11 // VII ]; // propabilita' assegnata ai gradi della scala: // I II III IV V VI VII probScala = [0.200, 0.125, 0.175, 0.150, 0.200, 0.125, 0.125]; // basic just intonation with a 7 limit tritone (suddivendendo l'ottava in 12 note) // vengono utilizzati gli intervalli della scala maggiore (7 note) justCorrection = [1/1, // 0 -> unison // 16/15, // 1 -> minor diatonic semitone 9/8, // 2 -> major whole tone // 6/5, // 3 -> minor third 5/4, // 4 -> major third 4/3, // 5 -> perfect fourth // 7/5, // 6 -> septimal tritone 3/2, // 7 ->perfect fifth // 8/5, // 8 -> minor sixth 5/3, // 9 -> major sixth // 9/5, // 10 -> just minor seventh 15/8 // 11 -> classic major seventh ]; // nota base: LA ottava = [24, 36, 48, 60, 72, 84, 96] - 3; // propabilita' assegnata all'ottava: // l'ottava bassa e quella alta hanno un po' meno chance probOttava = [0.05, 0.15, 0.15, 0.175, 0.175, 0.15, 0.15]; // numbero di archi simultanea nVoci = 16; Synth.write ( { ensemble = OverlapTexture.ar( { var voceBase, voce, nOscillatoriVoce; // numbero di oscillatori per costruire una voce nOscillatoriVoce = 32; // scelta casuale/polarizzata dell'ottava (che accentua le ottave centrali), // scelta casuale/polarizzata del grado della scala (che accentua il modo maggiore) // correzione della frequenza del grado della scala in JI f = ottava.at(windex(probOttava)).midicps * justCorrection.at(windex(probScala)); voceBase = LPZ2.ar( Mix.arFill( nOscillatoriVoce, { var ff; ff = f * SinOsc.kr(exprand(4,6),0,0.008,1); LFSaw.ar([ff * rrand(0.99,1.01), ff * rrand(0.99,1.01)], 0.01) } )); // una volta su due ripassa il filtro, // ma funziona ? if ( [false, true].choose, {voce = LPZ2.ar(voceBase)}, {voce = voceBase} ); }, 6 + { 1+ (nVoci-6).rand }.value, 6 + { 1+ (nVoci-6).rand }.value, 6 + { 1+ (nVoci-6).rand}.value, 2); // il riverbero non soddisfa come hall ensmble CombN.ar(ensemble, 0.6, [0.6,0.5], 6, 1, ensemble.reverse); } , 60*10, "Macintosh HD:Desktop Folder:stringEnsemble3.aif" ) ) - --- Giorgio Robino http://www.giorgiorobino.com , mailto:giorgio.robino@giorgiorobino.com - --- DEEP LISTENINGS "ascolti profondi, the new music magazine" (rivista trimestrale di cultura musicale), vendita per solo per corrispondenza. Rivolgersi a Gianluigi Gasparetti, mailto:deeplist@tin.it - --- SUPERCOLLIDER is an Object Oriented Programming Environment for real-time audio and video processing. It is one of the finest and most versatile environments for signal processing and especially for creating music applications of all kinds, such as complete compositions, interactive performances, installations etc. It runs on Macintosh Power PC computers. The author of SuperCollider is James McCartney. He maintains a site at: http://www.audiosynth.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 18:46:42 +0200 From: heiko goelzer <---@---.---> Subject: Re: [ot] sc keyword generator hi, this is long ago, but i feel like saying something about it. this generator did never work. well it produced a random set of keywords and thats it. sc is one of the programs i always felt good about paying for and i hope everybody else does. it sounded like a to funny idea to have a sc-play library with a sc-serial generator. maybee a bad one after all. here is the plain code: ( // keyword generator var w,file, length, number, words, one, all, serial; GetStringDialog.new("Enter Date ","01.01.2003", { arg ok, string; var good; good = string.size; if ( ok,{ if(good == 10,{ file = File.new("starter:Desktop Folder:keywords","r"); length = file.length; number = (length/4).asInt; one = file.readAllString; all = List.newClear; number.do({ arg i; var word; word = one.copyRange(i*4,i+1*4-1); all.add(word); }); serial=""; 6.do({arg i; var item; item = all.at(number.rand).asString; if( item.asList.indexOf($ ).notNil, {serial = serial ++ item.copyRange(0,item.asList.indexOf($ )-1) ++ " "}, {serial = serial ++ item.copyRange(0,3) ++ " "}); }); w = GUIWindow.new("Here is your new serial number", Rect.newBy(229, 86, 270, 90)); StringView.new( w, Rect.newBy(40, 29, 240, 26), serial); }); }); }); ) > hi sc-users! > > it's just about time to enter your new serial number and you somehow didn't > get it? then you should definitly check out my sc serial key generator. you > may understand that i can't post the plain code to this list. a scplay > compressed library is to big to post to the list as well. but you can find > it on my site. place the Default.lib in your scplay folder, and launch > scplay. you'll find the generator in the lib-menu. > > all the best > > heiko > > http://www.student.uni-oldenburg.de/heiko.goelzer/download/ > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 18:46:56 +0200 From: heiko goelzer <---@---.---> Subject: Re: matrix > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - --B_3082560417_1038699 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit hi, i worked a littlebit on this matrix project and this is what came out of it. pretty dry stuff, but it might be useful some day. what i have here is some basic matrix manipulations. just getting the determinant, inverse and transpose matrix and stuff like that. i know that there are better and faster ways to do this on your computer and this is not supposed to compete with matlab or mathematica. i started writing this while working with neuronal network stuff, and i hope it might be useful for you in one or the other way. all the best heiko - --B_3082560417_1038699 Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="Matrix_release.sit"; x-mac-creator="53495421"; x-mac-type="53495435" Content-disposition: attachment Content-transfer-encoding: base64 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beeing used. having this line in my class: removeAt { ^this.shouldNotImplement } i get the following error on sending .shouldNotImplement to my object: ERROR: Message 'ownerClass' not understood. what is the point im missing out here? thanks for help heiko ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 15:58:03 +0200 From: heiko goelzer <---@---.---> Subject: Re: matrix hi again, another strange thing with my class. i wanted to use *new for instance creation. if i name this method *newClear { arg rows=1, cols=1; // return (rows x cols) - zero matrix ^super.fill(rows, { Array.newClear(cols).fill(0) }); } to *new it does strange things: out of memory errors untill freeze. whats that. thanks for help heiko ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 13:57:43 -0400 From: "felix" <---@---.---> Subject: Re: Re: matrix > removeAt { ^this.shouldNotImplement } > > i get the following error on sending .shouldNotImplement to my object: > > ERROR: > Message 'ownerClass' not understood. > > what is the point im missing out here? your supposed to go ^thisMethod.shouldNotImplement the owner class is that of the method > > > thanks for help > > heiko > > > > ------------------------------ End of sc-users-digest V1 #352 ******************************