From: owner-sc-users-digest@lists.io.com (sc-users-digest) To: sc-users-digest@lists.io.com Subject: sc-users-digest V1 #360 Reply-To: sc-users Sender: owner-sc-users-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-sc-users-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk sc-users-digest Wednesday, September 26 2001 Volume 01 : Number 360 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 03:56:40 +0000 From: ssh <---@---.---> Subject: [OT] Reply: Drummachine triggers SC..or doesn't...works - -| http://www.studiobeige.de ... .. . ... . . .http://www.echtzeitmusik.de - -| so can u please explain [maybe even off list] what the second url means then ??? why dont people use the a g4 laptop for doing this ? cheers, frank ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 15:16:48 -0400 From: "Jamie Forrest" <---@---.---> Subject: capturing external controller data to a List Hi, Is there a way to capture incoming external controller data to a List or some other Collection? For instance, let's say I want to find the average pitch of the last 10 notes that come in from a MIDI keyboard. Is there a way to 'hook up' a MIDIMostRecentNote object to a List that can hold those note values, so that an average can be calculated? This is just one example; there are other instances in which capturing external controller data to a List would be important. Thanks, Jamie Forrest _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 19:44:41 +0000 From: "Dd dancer" <---@---.---> Subject: re: Goatsong hi michael what are those c74-rumors actually ? haven't checked out the goatsong yet ! - --- and is there a way of getting this list in digest-form ? you guys give me a headache :) best ddd _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 16:39:37 -0500 From: felix <---@---.---> Subject: Re: Goatsong On Saturday, September 22, 2001, at 03:44 PM, Dd dancer wrote: > hi michael > > what are those c74-rumors actually ? c74 is coming out with a video and matrix processing application/library. its called Jit (named after josh's cat which is named after the somewhat classic detroit track Jit by detrechno). the library incorporates openGL as well as quicktime (which is what n*&! relies on). > > haven't checked out the goatsong yet ! > > --- > > and is there a way of getting this list in digest-form ? > you guys give me a headache :) this list is so quiet compared to every other list ! try music-dsp or cocoa-dev for a real headache! > > best > ddd > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 13:51:14 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <---@---.---> Subject: Re: [ot] rumors, wrong date, was Re: Goatsong >>>> what are those c74-rumors actually ? >>> >>> c74 is coming out with a video and matrix processing >>> application/library. >>> its called Jit (named after josh's cat which is named after the >>> somewhat >>> classic >>> detroit track Jit by detrechno). >>> the library incorporates openGL as well as quicktime (which is what >>> n*&! relies on). >> >> didn't c74 kinda, ummmm... 'borrow' this technology from nn? > >quicktime is an apple technology, openGl is open source graphics >descended from >sgi technology. GEM (for PD the open-source version of max) has been >able to >control openGL for a while now. (limited though). >other max objects have dealt with quicktime before. >so don't believe the hype. >although i have asked many nato people repeatedly to define what unique >aspect >there is to nato, i've never gotten a really straight answer. there are >some transforms >that i think are unique. c74's transform approaches are quite different. - -One part of this discussion can be viewed on: http://www.m9ndfukc.org/cycling74 AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .................................................................. ^ Arie van Schutterhoef | arsche@xs4all.nl ^_±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±__""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" | ` |Schreck Ensemble http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | ` |Tel: 00-31-71-5612287 Fax: 00-31-70-3859268 | *========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 08:29:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Rogalsky <---@---.---> Subject: continuing OSC problem Hallo all, I am still having major problems getting OSC to work... (SC2.2.11, OS9.1) In the past I had no problems and even made a little piece for 4 networked machines which communicate continuously with each other. Now, running through the OSC examples, I have no trouble until SC is actually running. Then, every OSC message I send gives me "OTSndUData returned error code -3179." Thus I can execute the following: z.send("/sc/ping"); // round trip z.send("/sc/post", 123, 456.789, \symbol, $X, true, false, nil, inf, [1, 2, [3, 4], 5], "blurb"); z.send("/sc/run"); But then this fails: z.send("/sc/stop"); and the ping no longer works either. ???? thanks for any assistance mattr ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 08:36:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Rogalsky <---@---.---> Subject: Re: continuing OSC problem I just tried the examples under 2.2.7 (which I believe I was using with OSC successfully before) and I am getting the same error, so it must be down to the way my machine is configured... suggestions welcome... best matt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 12:49:24 -0400 From: christian adam hresko <---@---.---> Subject: flavor after busting my ass for 8 months writing an article about file formats, my editor just informed me that the MP4 group has developed a pretty cool language which eliminates the problems of parsing and manipulating audio files of different types. (and therefore makes a good chunk of my article useless, and gets tossed. where's the love?) anyway, anyone interested should check out: http://www.ee.columbia.edu/flavor/ it's called flavor, and is described as "A Language for Media Representation" and is similar in semantics to C++ and Java. i haven't read the entire description yet, but it seems like a well thought out idea with clean implementation. very quick bitstream manipulations... A(B) != B(A) christian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 12:49:24 -0400 From: christian adam hresko <---@---.---> Subject: flavor after busting my ass for 8 months writing an article about file formats, my editor just informed me that the MP4 group has developed a pretty cool language which eliminates the problems of parsing and manipulating audio files of different types. (and therefore makes a good chunk of my article useless, and gets tossed. where's the love?) anyway, anyone interested should check out: http://www.ee.columbia.edu/flavor/ it's called flavor, and is described as "A Language for Media Representation" and is similar in semantics to C++ and Java. i haven't read the entire description yet, but it seems like a well thought out idea with clean implementation. very quick bitstream manipulations... A(B) != B(A) christian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 14:05:21 -0400 From: felix <---@---.---> Subject: [ot] rumors, wrong date, was Re: Goatsong On Sunday, September 23, 2001, at 12:31 PM, christian adam hresko wrote: > felix wrote: > >> On Saturday, September 22, 2001, at 03:44 PM, Dd dancer wrote: >> >>> hi michael >>> >>> what are those c74-rumors actually ? >> >> c74 is coming out with a video and matrix processing >> application/library. >> its called Jit (named after josh's cat which is named after the >> somewhat >> classic >> detroit track Jit by detrechno). >> the library incorporates openGL as well as quicktime (which is what >> n*&! relies on). > > didn't c74 kinda, ummmm... 'borrow' this technology from nn? quicktime is an apple technology, openGl is open source graphics descended from sgi technology. GEM (for PD the open-source version of max) has been able to control openGL for a while now. (limited though). other max objects have dealt with quicktime before. so don't believe the hype. although i have asked many nato people repeatedly to define what unique aspect there is to nato, i've never gotten a really straight answer. there are some transforms that i think are unique. c74's transform approaches are quite different. my clock was set wrong because os x torched my pace authorization for sc and i was being lazy. i just got it sorted out yesterday. does anyone know if the new 9.2(?) os update allows us to use audio apps like SC from the classic environment ? or did it fix ppp ? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 14:39:17 -0400 From: christian adam hresko <---@---.---> Subject: Re: [ot] rumors, wrong date, was Re: Goatsong felix wrote: > > > does anyone know if the new 9.2(?) os update allows us to use audio apps > like SC from the classic environment ? or did it fix ppp ? as in: boot into OS X boot OS 9 "Classic" launch SC good luck... although reaktor actually works in classic mode. i've yet to find many other audio apps which work in the classic environment. i think it's a toss. i think your best bet is to sit back, and wait for everything to be rewritten in cocoa -> OS X native. (i.e. take a really really long nap... set your alarm for 2003) filtfilt, ch. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 13:14:05 -0800 From: "anthony burr" <---@---.---> Subject: jit??? this name could be considered slightly tasteless/problematic given the origin of the term...(one step before the detrechno track that is) - ---------- >From: felix <---@---.---> >To: sc-users@lists.io.com >Subject: Re: Goatsong >Date: Mon, Jan 1, 2001, 1:39 PM > > c74 is coming out with a video and matrix processing application/library. > its called Jit (named after josh's cat which is named after the somewhat > classic > detroit track Jit by detrechno). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 10:51:06 -0500 From: chris clepper <---@---.---> Subject: Re: continuing OSC problem >Hallo all, > >I am still having major problems getting OSC to work... (SC2.2.11, OS9.1) > >In the past I had no problems and even made a little piece for 4 networked >machines which communicate continuously with each other. > >Now, running through the OSC examples, I have no trouble until SC is >actually running. Then, every OSC message I send gives me "OTSndUData >returned error code -3179." Thus I can execute the following: this error usually occurs when multiple write objects are called or you change the ip while running. what is the network setup you are using? how many machines and their ip, and what programs are running OSC. also what version of OSC. >z.send("/sc/ping"); // round trip > >z.send("/sc/post", 123, 456.789, \symbol, $X, true, false, nil, inf, [1, >2, [3, 4], 5], "blurb"); > >z.send("/sc/run"); > >But then this fails: >z.send("/sc/stop"); > >and the ping no longer works either. > at what point in executing these commands do you get the error? also what codde are you using to setup the OSC write and read functions? OSC can be tricky business. i have been using it between max/sc for a while and once you get it down it seems to be pretty solid. don't give up. cgc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 10:00:22 -0600 From: "David Cottle" <---@---.---> Subject: Re: StringView > > > David Cottle wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Is there a way to change the string in a StingView, similar to the monitor >> examples? and linked views examples in GUI? >> >> > > here's my half-assed attempt before i go to bed. > > i have no idea as to how you'd get the string into the GUI. This is actually what I was asking. But the more I think about it, I guess I really don't need it. I rarely post different text when checking data, so I guess I could use a single string view and use numbers for everything else. - -- ><><><><><><><><><><><> David Cottle, computer music, contra, cottle@cerlsoundgroup.org "This obsession with old music, tends to make all music listening safe and unadventurous since it deals so largely in the works of the accepted masters. Filling our halls with familiar sounds induces a sense of security in our audiences; they are gradually losing all need to exercise freely their own musical judgement." ‹ Copland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 12:27:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Paul C. Koonce" <---@---.---> Subject: Re: StringView > >> Is there a way to change the string in a StingView, similar to the monitor > >> examples? and linked views examples in GUI? How about something like this...... var w; w = GUIWindow.new("panel", Rect.newBy(581, 161, 400, 400)); StringView.new( w, Rect.newBy(131, 64, 128, 20), "OLD"); Synth.play({ arg synth ; synth.sched( 2, { StringView.new( w, Rect.newBy(131, 64, 128, 20), "NEW"); }) ; SinOsc.ar( 100, 0, 0 ) ; }); Paul Koonce ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:28:21 +0200 From: John Eacott <---@---.---> Subject: SCAutoPlay Could someone tell me if is it possible to make SCPlay files that run when you double click the file icon without having to do apple - r? If so, how? Thanks, John - -- John Eacott www.informal.org www.strangeattraction.com tel. +44 (0) 20 7582 3429 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 11:50:56 -0600 From: "David Cottle" <---@---.---> Subject: Re: StringView > > >>>> Is there a way to change the string in a StingView, similar to the monitor >>>> examples? and linked views examples in GUI? > > How about something like this...... > > > var w; > > w = GUIWindow.new("panel", Rect.newBy(581, 161, 400, 400)); > > StringView.new( w, Rect.newBy(131, 64, 128, 20), "OLD"); > > Synth.play({ arg synth ; > > synth.sched( 2, { > StringView.new( w, Rect.newBy(131, 64, 128, 20), "NEW"); > }) ; > > SinOsc.ar( 100, 0, 0 ) ; > }); Very clever. But then do these StringViews start to add up on top of each other? Would they compromise the array of views when you are referencing them using e.g. w.at(0)? or would they be added to the array at the end. Would it be possible to refresh the entire window? - -- ><><><><><><><><><><><> David Cottle, computer music, contra, cottle@cerlsoundgroup.org "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ‹Einstein ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 14:02:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Rogalsky <---@---.---> Subject: Re: SCAutoPlay hi John I have made SCPlay pieces that auto-start just by putting all the code into the hardwareSetup function in Main.sc best mattr On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, John Eacott wrote: > Could someone tell me if is it possible to make SCPlay files that run when you > double click the file icon without having to do apple - r? If so, how? > > Thanks, > John > > > -- > John Eacott > www.informal.org > www.strangeattraction.com > tel. +44 (0) 20 7582 3429 > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 17:59:51 -0600 From: David Cottle <---@---.---> Subject: StringView Hi, Is there a way to change the string in a StingView, similar to the monitor examples? and linked views examples in GUI? - -- ><><><><><><><><><><><> David Cottle, computer music, contra, cottle@cerlsoundgroup.org "The question is not how the phenomenon must be turned, twisted, narrowed, or crippled, so that it can be made explicable according to principles that we have in any case resolved not to go beyond, but: 'To what point must our thought be enlarged in order to stand in proportion with the phenomenon?'" - -F. W. J. von Schelling ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 17:59:51 -0600 From: David Cottle <---@---.---> Subject: StringView Hi, Is there a way to change the string in a StingView, similar to the monitor examples? and linked views examples in GUI? - -- ><><><><><><><><><><><> David Cottle, computer music, contra, cottle@cerlsoundgroup.org "The question is not how the phenomenon must be turned, twisted, narrowed, or crippled, so that it can be made explicable according to principles that we have in any case resolved not to go beyond, but: 'To what point must our thought be enlarged in order to stand in proportion with the phenomenon?'" - -F. W. J. von Schelling ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 23:58:13 From: "Lindon Parker" <---@---.---> Subject: Re: [OT] jit???

Jit also has (at least one) musical refrence. It's a kind of dance music originating in Zimbabwe, the most famous artists bing Bhundu Boys...check em out...

LP

Christian wrote:

>From: christian adam hresko <---@---.--->
>
>
>anthony burr wrote:
>
> > this name could be considered slightly tasteless/problematic given the
> > origin of the term...(one step before the detrechno track that is)
> >
> > ----------
> > >From: felix <---@---.--->
> > >To: sc-users@lists.io.com
> > >Subject: Re: Goatsong
> > >Date: Mon, Jan 1, 2001, 1:39 PM
> > >
> >
> > > c74 is coming out with a video and matrix processing application/library.
> > > its called Jit (named after josh's cat which is named after the somewhat
> > > classic
> > > detroit track Jit by detrechno).
>
>why is it tasteless?
>
>the acronym JIT (just in time) has been around for quite some time, and i
>don't think anyone finds that term offensive. (although this has nothing to do
>with joshua clayton's cat...)
>
>
>and of course, there's the journal of information technology.
>
>
>
>the one that really caught me, was native instruments' key file which they
>(unintentionally) named the 'enigma' file. coming from a german company, that
>could be taken the wrong way... but fortunately there's no relation there.
>
>
>
>x' = ax + cy + t(sub x)
>y' = bx + dy + t(sub y)
>
>
>ch.
>

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------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 21:28:25 -0400 From: christian adam hresko <---@---.---> Subject: Re: StringView David Cottle wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a way to change the string in a StingView, similar to the monitor > examples? and linked views examples in GUI? > > here's my half-assed attempt before i go to bed. i have no idea as to how you'd get the string into the GUI. this is a StringView hack, needs a lot of work, and was only worked on for a few minutes. the output (the string or strings) is displayed to whatever window is active. maybe someone else has a better idea.... //StringView hack... StringView : View { var Subject: Re: StringView David Cottle wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a way to change the string in a StingView, similar to the monitor > examples? and linked views examples in GUI? > > here's my half-assed attempt before i go to bed. i have no idea as to how you'd get the string into the GUI. this is a StringView hack, needs a lot of work, and was only worked on for a few minutes. the output (the string or strings) is displayed to whatever window is active. maybe someone else has a better idea.... //StringView hack... StringView : View { var Subject: Re: StringView w = GUIWindow.new("panel", Rect.newBy(581, 161, 400, 400)); s=StringView.new( w, Rect.newBy(131, 64, 128, 20), "OLD"); s.label_("whatever"); no need to refresh even. On Monday, September 24, 2001, at 01:50 PM, David Cottle wrote: >> >> >>>>> Is there a way to change the string in a StingView, similar to the >>>>> monitor >>>>> examples? and linked views examples in GUI? >> >> <><><><><><><><><><><> > David Cottle, computer music, contra, cottle@cerlsoundgroup.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:14:56 -0400 From: felix <---@---.---> Subject: Re: [ot] rumors, wrong date, was Re: Goatsong there is absolutely nothing in that entire folder that relates to actual approaches or technology. just a lot of bellyaching that people from california actually say (with a strong sense of comedy that is apparently lost on the witch) "shit" and "dude" . and plenty of crude personal petty attacks as per normal. and a lot of 404s and broken javascript. On Monday, September 24, 2001, at 08:51 AM, Arie van Schutterhoef wrote: >> although i have asked many nato people repeatedly to define what unique >> aspect >> there is to nato, i've never gotten a really straight answer. there >> are >> some transforms >> that i think are unique. c74's transform approaches are quite >> different. > -One part of this discussion can be viewed on: > http://www.m9ndfukc.org/cycling74 > > AvS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:55:56 -0600 From: "David Cottle" <---@---.---> Subject: Re: StringView > > > w = GUIWindow.new("panel", Rect.newBy(581, 161, 400, 400)); > > s=StringView.new( w, Rect.newBy(131, 64, 128, 20), "OLD"); > > s.label_("whatever"); I suspected this, but I just didn't know the syntax. And I take back my previous dismissal. There is a reason to use it: when monitoring pitches, you can print pitch class strings rather than midi numbers. - -- ><><><><><><><><><><><> David Cottle, computer music, contra, cottle@cerlsoundgroup.org "It is not enough for you to love [power, the system]. It has to love you." ‹Shostakovich ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:55:57 -0600 From: "David Cottle" <---@---.---> Subject: Re: Units > On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, David Cottle wrote: > >> Hi >> >> What is the unit of measure for window sizes, pixels or points? >> >> (As in Rect.newBy(120, 70, 200, 180)) > > pixels. > On the Mac coordinate lines lie at the boundaries of pixels, not at their > centers. And, by the way, there is a handy little utility for measuring pixels called ScreenRuler. If you want to bypass the GUI editor and just fiddle with the numbers yourself. - -- ><><><><><><><><><><><> David Cottle, computer music, contra, cottle@cerlsoundgroup.org What has sound got to do with music? Š Why can't music go out in the same way it comes into a man, without having to crawl over a fence of sounds, thoraxes, catguts, wire, wood, and brass? ‹ Ives ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 00:04:54 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <---@---.---> Subject: Re: [ot] rumors, wrong date, was Re: Goatsong >there is absolutely nothing in that entire folder that relates to actual >approaches or technology. >just a lot of bellyaching that people from >california actually say (with a strong sense of comedy that is apparently >lost on the witch) "shit" and "dude" . >and plenty of crude personal petty attacks as per normal. >and a lot of 404s and broken javascript. - -The answer to these kind of affairs is, that it is very difficult for a non-participant/outsider to judge who is right and who is wrong (if that is possible anyway). AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .................................................................. ^ Arie van Schutterhoef | arsche@xs4all.nl ^_±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±__""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" | ` |Schreck Ensemble http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | ` |Tel: 00-31-71-5612287 Fax: 00-31-70-3859268 | *========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:36:51 -0400 From: Andrei <---@---.---> Subject: [OT] duplicate mesages Did anyone else get duplicates of some posts from the last couple of days or is it just me ? Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:57:50 -0400 From: James Forrest <---@---.---> Subject: Re: [OT] duplicate mesages on 9/24/01 7:36 PM, Andrei at andrei@world.std.com wrote: > Did anyone else get duplicates of some posts from the last couple of days > or is it just me ? > > Andrei yes i did too. no. it's not just you. - -jamie _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:10:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Lee Azzarello <---@---.---> Subject: Random numbers So after a long time in max/msp land, I've stepped up to SC again. I'm getting the hang of it but there's one thing that really gets my goat, and I just can't figure it out. All the max users here are probably familliar with the 'random' object. Well, I like it a lot. So I'm using the rrand() method in SC and I'm having some problems. In max, if I wanted a random number to be spit out periodicaly, I could simply hook up a metro object to a random object. In SC, what would be the equivilant of the metro object? As it is now, I get one random number at runtime, and that's it. So how do I periodicaly "bang" rrand() to get random values? Here's what I've tried so far: clock = Impulse.ar(10); Sequencer.kr(rrand(0.3,2.0), clock); and clock = Impulse.ar(10); ImpulseSequencer.kr(rrand(0.3,2.0), clock); and clock = Impulse.ar(10); StepClock.kr(rrand(0.3,2.0), clock); None have worked. I even figured, clock = Impulse.ar(10), well that's an object, right? So why can't I pass a message to it. So i tried: clock.rrand(0.3, 2.0) Still nothing. And, while I'm on the topic of sequencers, I'm aware of this convention: ImpulseSequencer.ar(`(#[[1,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0], [1,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,1]].choose) Which is really cool, but what if I just want to cycle through the arrays in order? - -l[e^2] - ----------------- chmod -R 777 / chown -R nobody / imagine true freedom http://eds.org/~lee ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:58:21 -0800 From: "anthony burr" <---@---.---> Subject: Re: Random numbers this will work if the rrand is inside a function ie Sequencer.kr({rrand(0.3,2.0)}, clock); - ---------- >From: Lee Azzarello <---@---.---> >To: sc-users@lists.io.com >Subject: Random numbers >Date: Mon, Sep 24, 2001, 5:10 PM > > > clock = Impulse.ar(10); > Sequencer.kr(rrand(0.3,2.0), clock); ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 02:57:58 +0100 From: northernboy <---@---.---> Subject: Re: [OT] duplicate mes[s]ages on 25/9/01 12:36 am GMT, Andrei at andrei@world.std.com apparently typed: > Did anyone else get duplicates of some posts from the last couple of days > or is it just me ? > > Andrei > Many of us. - -- LUThER ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:55:03 -0400 From: James Forrest <---@---.---> Subject: Re: Random numbers > > Here's what I've tried so far: > > clock = Impulse.ar(10); > Sequencer.kr(rrand(0.3,2.0), clock); the first argument to Sequencer.kr should be a function that returns a value. Try this instead: clock = Impulse.ar(10); ImpulseSequencer.ar({rrand(0.3,2.0)}, clock) > And, while I'm on the topic of sequencers, I'm aware of this convention: > > ImpulseSequencer.ar(`(#[[1,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0], > [1,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,1]].choose) > > Which is really cool, but what if I just want to cycle through the arrays > in order? Try using a Pseq pattern, which can be used in a sequencer if passed the asStream message. Check out the Streams-Patterns-Events documentation. - -Jamie Forrest _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:58:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Lee Azzarello <---@---.---> Subject: Re: Random numbers On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, anthony burr wrote: > this will work if the rrand is inside a function > ie Sequencer.kr({rrand(0.3,2.0)}, clock); Oh, cool. It's little thing like this that I need to keep an eye on. So just to clarify, The documentation says: "If sequence is a Ref of an Array then the values in the array are output cyclically. If it is not a Ref of an Array then each clock performs the 'value' message upon the sequence and outputs the result of that. This allows you to use Streams or anything else as a source of values." So, a function, something in {}, returns a value. A method (message?), something like rrand(x,y), does not return a value? Or is *returning* a value vs *responding* to .value two different things? - -l[e^2] - ----------------- chmod -R 777 / chown -R nobody / imagine true freedom http://eds.org/~lee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:31:33 +0200 From: Julian Rohrhuber <---@---.---> Subject: Re: Random numbers >On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, anthony burr wrote: > >> this will work if the rrand is inside a function >> ie Sequencer.kr({rrand(0.3,2.0)}, clock); > >Oh, cool. It's little thing like this that I need to keep an eye on. > >So just to clarify, >The documentation says: > >"If sequence is a Ref of an Array then the values in the array are output >cyclically. If it is not a Ref of an Array then each clock performs the >'value' message upon the sequence and outputs the result of that. This >allows you to use Streams or anything else as a source of values." > >So, a function, something in {}, returns a value. A method (message?), >something like rrand(x,y), does not return a value? it depends *when it returns the value. All your first attempts returned it before the UGens are being build, so you actually only have a number. see what this is doing: a = rrand(8, 2.0); a.postln; a.class.postln; a function is used to be able to do that later, repeatedly, for example in a Sequencer. you could write for example a = { rrand(1, 5) }; 5.do({ b = a.value.postln }); > Or is *returning* a >value vs *responding* to .value two different things? it responds to the message value by returning something, meaning that if you assign it to something, the something will have the value it returned... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:20:48 +0000 From: "Dd dancer" <---@---.---> Subject: ibook ? hello colliders is an ibook 300mhz 160MB fit enough to do some decent real time dsp with suppercollider ? any other suggestions or minimum necessities ? best and thanks ddd _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:58:10 -0600 From: Jeffrey P Shell <---@---.---> Subject: [show] earational2001, 's-hertogenbosch NL as things [appear to] stand, i'll be appearing at EARATIONAL 2001 in 's-hertogenbosch NL. Sunday, September 30 2001 14:00hr at Het Muziekcentrum http://www.hetmuziekcentrum.net/ http://www.earational.org/ http://euc.cx/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 15:03:19 -0700 (PDT) From: michael whyte <---@---.---> Subject: Re: ibook ? that's what i use, and it's fine with me. i can get loads of stuff running at once without having to synth.write--- tho i usually end up there after a while....;-) - -mike p.s. i can give a ugen count if you want. - --- Dd dancer wrote: > hello colliders > > is an ibook 300mhz 160MB fit enough to do some decent > real time dsp with suppercollider ? > > any other suggestions > or minimum necessities ? > > best and thanks > > ddd > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 19:54:33 +0200 From: John Eacott <---@---.---> Subject: Re: SCAutoPlay Hi Matt, Will that work if I have several different pieces and double click a new one after the previous one has ended (and the Synth has stopped but SCPlay is still running)? j Matthew Rogalsky wrote: > hi John > > I have made SCPlay pieces that auto-start just by putting all the code > into the hardwareSetup function in Main.sc > > best > mattr > > On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, John Eacott wrote: > > > Could someone tell me if is it possible to make SCPlay files that run when you > > double click the file icon without having to do apple - r? If so, how? > > > > Thanks, > > John > > > > > > -- > > John Eacott > > www.informal.org > > www.strangeattraction.com > > tel. +44 (0) 20 7582 3429 > > > > > > > > - -- John Eacott www.informal.org www.strangeattraction.com tel. +44 (0) 20 7582 3429 ------------------------------ End of sc-users-digest V1 #360 ******************************