From: owner-sc-users-digest@lists.io.com (sc-users-digest) To: sc-users-digest@lists.io.com Subject: sc-users-digest V1 #361 Reply-To: sc-users Sender: owner-sc-users-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-sc-users-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk sc-users-digest Friday, September 28 2001 Volume 01 : Number 361 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 21:50:48 +0200 From: Julian Rohrhuber <---@---.---> Subject: multichannel aiff? Synth.record({ Array.fill(8, { Impulse.ar(300.rand) }) }, 3, "test.aiff"); when I record a multichannel file like this, I can't open it with logic audio. Has anyone had this problem, too? As soundedit crashes on my system I can't test whether it is readable with that either. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:53:39 -0400 From: Phil C <---@---.---> Subject: Re: ibook ? With regard to ugen counts, I have found something rather odd. The patch, which allows you to bench mark ugens, allows the same number of ugens on my g3 pb300 and my g4 400. Oddly enough though, when I hit the limit on the pb, I crash, while on the g4 hitting that same number of ugens only degrades performance (clicks and cuts, pauses etc) and does not make me crash. By the by, to clarify, I consider the ugen limit to be 98-100 % cpu usage rather than a more sensable performance hit. just my $0.02 Thus spake michael whyte, in the year of our L*rd Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 03:03:19PM -0700: > > p.s. i can give a ugen count if you want. > - -- '.QBkU.V3jOk''''''''''wv5b9iRxcVq.Plr.dJ yLMKtStIn'D2ygl,'''''''' ''e..4dTRe4c.''''''''cP6M3nu,''NSrP57.fw 2.yF9O7F".gD0DeQ.4`''''' '''''''."W.`WI ,.'Jz4QS3Y7,'''' 'fbPg83R LS.Z4JV, 7SWS9Tz''' '''''''''L.z GrTn....wQu.'''''' KY1"Jcp. 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I am only trying to run the basic examples on 1 machine using loopback address. > > >z.send("/sc/ping"); // round trip > > > >z.send("/sc/post", 123, 456.789, \symbol, $X, true, false, nil, inf, [1, > >2, [3, 4], 5], "blurb"); > > > >z.send("/sc/run"); > > > >But then this fails: > >z.send("/sc/stop"); > > > >and the ping no longer works either. > > > > at what point in executing these commands do you get the error? also > what code are you using to setup the OSC write and read functions? As I say, I am just going back to the basics... starting at the top of the examples file. Once SC is running (started via OSC) I get the open transport error. If I stop SC manually, then I am in business again -- OSC messages are received without error. It seems that when SC is running it stops listening for further OSC messages. Has anyone else seen this behaviour? I have now tried all this on a second, very different machine, using both SC2.2.7 and 2.2.11, with same result. > > OSC can be tricky business. i have been using it between max/sc for > a while and once you get it down it seems to be pretty solid. don't > give up. Well I do recall running through these examples a long time ago without any errors. And I made a little piece for a network of 4 machines which never had any problems. thanks Matt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 12:06:19 +0200 From: Julian Rohrhuber <---@---.---> Subject: Re: continuing OSC problem > >As I say, I am just going back to the basics... starting at the top of the >examples file. Once SC is running (started via OSC) I get the open >transport error. If I stop SC manually, then I am in business again -- OSC >messages are received without error. It seems that when SC is running it >stops listening for further OSC messages. Has anyone else seen this >behaviour? I have now tried all this on a second, very different machine, >using both SC2.2.7 and 2.2.11, with same result. > >> >> OSC can be tricky business. i have been using it between max/sc for >> a while and once you get it down it seems to be pretty solid. don't >> give up. > >Well I do recall running through these examples a long time ago without >any errors. And I made a little piece for a network of 4 machines which >never had any problems. > >thanks >Matt I've just checked and it seems to work fine with sc2.2.11 on my system. also the second examples emulating midi do work. strange. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 18:09:40 +0000 From: "Dd dancer" <---@---.---> Subject: tutorials hello colliders i am searching for some online sc-tutorials ( i think michael theodore mentioned some ) does anybody have any url ? thanks and best ddd _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 12:35:35 -0600 From: "David Cottle" <---@---.---> Subject: Re: tutorials > hello colliders > > i am searching for some online sc-tutorials > > ( i think michael theodore mentioned some ) > > does anybody have any url ? http://swiki.hfbk.uni-hamburg.de:8080/MusicTechnology/322 - -- ><><><><><><><><><><><> David Cottle, computer music, contra, cottle@cerlsoundgroup.org "If you make it fool proof, fools will use it." -Programmer ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:00:40 +0200 From: John Eacott <---@---.---> Subject: SuperCollider Study Group - UoW University of Westminster
SuperCollider Study Group

This group meets on Tuesday 2nd October, 5-7pm in J1.17, University of Westminster, Northwick Park, Harrow, HA1 3TP.
We will meet fortnightly to share ideas and methods.
Themes this term will be:

All are welcome but please contact me in advance so that I can arrange a security pass. Please forward this email to anyone who may be interested.

John

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John Eacott
www.informal.org
www.strangeattraction.com
tel. +44 (0) 20 7582 3429
  ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:18:30 -0500 From: James McCartney <---@---.---> Subject: Sequencer plugin for SC3 (was Re: get an array...) This file contains the Codewarrior project and source code for the SC3 Sequencer, ImpulseSequencer and StepClock UGens. ftp://www.audiosynth.com/pub/misc/SeqUGens.sea.hqx It shows how to access an array from a UGen and how to call the interpreter from a UGen. Sorry, it is not commented yet, I will add comments soon and repost. - --- james mccartney james@audiosynth.com SuperCollider - a real time synthesis programming language for the PowerMac. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:56:24 -0400 From: "t. krakowiak" <---@---.---> Subject: Re: SuperCollider Study Group - UoW This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C1480C.36F02600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear John! It would be nice if You can share these ideas on the internet. tomasz - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Eacott=20 To: sc-users@lists.io.com=20 Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 4:00 AM Subject: SuperCollider Study Group - UoW University of Westminster=20 SuperCollider Study Group=20 This group meets on Tuesday 2nd October, 5-7pm in J1.17, University of = Westminster, Northwick Park, Harrow, HA1 3TP.=20 We will meet fortnightly to share ideas and methods.=20 Themes this term will be:=20 a.. Networked compositions, performances, using OSC=20 b.. Algorithmic composition=20 c.. Interactive musical instruments, devices and games=20 All are welcome but please contact me in advance so that I can arrange = a security pass. Please forward this email to anyone who may be = interested.=20 John=20 --=20 John Eacott=20 www.informal.org=20 www.strangeattraction.com=20 tel. +44 (0) 20 7582 3429=20 =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C1480C.36F02600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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It would be nice if You can share these = ideas on=20 the internet.
 
 
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  • Interactive musical instruments, devices and games
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- ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C1480C.36F02600-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:27:47 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <---@---.---> Subject: Re: continuing OSC problem >Once SC is running (started via OSC) I get the open >transport error. - -Could Open Transport be causing that trouble? Does OSC demand a particuliar version of Open Transport to run? Sometimes Open Transport asks 'stupid questions' or mentions 'errors' which I'm sure aren't true... AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .................................................................. ^ Arie van Schutterhoef | arsche@xs4all.nl ^_北北北北北北北北北北北盻_""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" | ` |Schreck Ensemble http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | ` |Tel: 00-31-71-5612287 Fax: 00-31-70-3859268 | *========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 13:11:14 -0500 From: chris clepper <---@---.---> Subject: Re: continuing OSC problem >I am only trying to run the basic examples on 1 machine using loopback >address. ok, i tried the demo again after reading this message and i got the same errors you explain below. but when i use max to send messages to the sc demo patch everything works fine. i think maybe it has to do with trying to execute code in SC while the synth engine is running? maybe james has an explaination??? cgc > > >> >z.send("/sc/ping"); // round trip >> > >> >z.send("/sc/post", 123, 456.789, \symbol, $X, true, false, nil, inf, [1, >> >2, [3, 4], 5], "blurb"); >> > >> >z.send("/sc/run"); >> > >> >But then this fails: >> >z.send("/sc/stop"); >> > >> >and the ping no longer works either. >> > >> >> at what point in executing these commands do you get the error? also >> what code are you using to setup the OSC write and read functions? > >As I say, I am just going back to the basics... starting at the top of the >examples file. Once SC is running (started via OSC) I get the open >transport error. If I stop SC manually, then I am in business again -- OSC >messages are received without error. It seems that when SC is running it >stops listening for further OSC messages. Has anyone else seen this >behaviour? I have now tried all this on a second, very different machine, >using both SC2.2.7 and 2.2.11, with same result. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:20:20 +0200 From: Stephan Wittwer <---@---.---> Subject: Re: multichannel aiff? am 26.9.2001 21:50 Uhr schrieb Julian Rohrhuber unter sa6a014@rzaixsrv2.rrz.uni-hamburg.de: > > Synth.record({ Array.fill(8, { Impulse.ar(300.rand) }) }, 3, "test.aiff"); > > when I record a multichannel file like this, > I can't open it with logic audio. Has anyone had this problem, too? > > As soundedit crashes on my system I can't test whether it is readable > with that either. Logic open file dialog says it's a mono file, trying to open brings: mono/stereo conflict! SoundHack says it has 8 channels (but then i got problems). Stephan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:29:06 +0200 From: Stephan Wittwer <---@---.---> Subject: Re: multichannel aiff? >> >> Synth.record({ Array.fill(8, { Impulse.ar(300.rand) }) }, 3, "test.aiff"); >> >> when I record a multichannel file like this, >> I can't open it with logic audio. Has anyone had this problem, too? >> > > Logic open file dialog says it's a mono file, trying to open brings: > mono/stereo conflict! > SoundHack says it has 8 channels (but then i got problems). > (beta version crashed) Trying to import into ProTools LE produces info: could not complete request...assertion ocurred in "FF_Audio_Process_Regulator.cpp"... sw ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:37:33 +0200 From: Stephan Wittwer <---@---.---> Subject: Re: multichannel aiff? >> >> Synth.record({ Array.fill(8, { Impulse.ar(300.rand) }) }, 3, "test.aiff"); >> >> when I record a multichannel file like this, >> I can't open it with logic audio. Has anyone had this problem, too? >> > > Logic open file dialog says it's a mono file, trying to open brings: > mono/stereo conflict! > SoundHack says it has 8 channels (but then i got problems). > (beta version crashed) Trying to import into PT LE...blahblah... no, sorry, that was the attempt to *play* the files from the open dialog, actually I can import the file(s) into a new project ! sw ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 17:47:50 -0400 From: "t. krakowiak" <---@---.---> Subject: Re: multichannel aiff? do You play guitar, Stephan ? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephan Wittwer" <---@---.---> To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:20 PM Subject: Re: multichannel aiff? > am 26.9.2001 21:50 Uhr schrieb Julian Rohrhuber unter > sa6a014@rzaixsrv2.rrz.uni-hamburg.de: > > > > > Synth.record({ Array.fill(8, { Impulse.ar(300.rand) }) }, 3, "test.aiff"); > > > > when I record a multichannel file like this, > > I can't open it with logic audio. Has anyone had this problem, too? > > > > As soundedit crashes on my system I can't test whether it is readable > > with that either. > > Logic open file dialog says it's a mono file, trying to open brings: > mono/stereo conflict! > SoundHack says it has 8 channels (but then i got problems). > > Stephan > > ------------------------------ End of sc-users-digest V1 #361 ******************************